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par Hel » 07 Juil 2013 07:46
par Hel » 08 Juil 2013 08:58
Stokes a écrit:Ruff a écrit:Par contre le gros mystère ça reste de savoir pourquoi les fameux espions inter-équipes n'ont rien su détecter? Pt une ailette qui dépasse de la poutre ça se voit nan?
Peut être parce que Oracle ne testait justement pas hors jauge depuis des mois (ou du moins pas complètement). Le fait d'avoir des safrans ajustable rapidement a du sens en période de mise au point et il me semble qu'il n'y a pas encore de preuve formelle que la géométrie des foils d'Oracle ne respecte pas la règle.
par Holé » 08 Juil 2013 10:05
par Hel » 08 Juil 2013 11:04
Holé a écrit:On se demande bien qui fait des recommandations à qui?
VSail.info: Let me then rephrase the question. First of all, what input have you personally made into the safety recommendations?
Grant Simmer: We wrote a letter on the 13th of May to the review committee with about 20 points and that included stuff we learned in our capsize. There was a lot about recovery, what to do in a recovery, the procedures because we were with Artemis, trying to help them. We had all our chaseboats around the Artemis yacht. It included recommendations on the equipment, the gear sailors should wear, as well recommendations about the boat. We thought that the rules on control systems on the boat were a little bit unsafe. So, we pushed that. Then the review committee met and called people individually and privately, from all the teams. Seven people went from Oracle Team and I was one of them. Jimmy and a couple of the sailors went, as well as a few of the designers. In any case, we will just have to adapt with whatever the rule is and we will wait for the outcome of the case.
par phiver » 08 Juil 2013 11:37
par Holé » 08 Juil 2013 11:57
phiver a écrit:Helmina
donc LR n'est pas venu hier soir pour des questions de sécurité.
phiver a écrit:en 2 phrases simples qu'est ce qui s'est passé ?
phiver a écrit:je suppose que le but de LR était quand même de courir!
par doublemexpress » 08 Juil 2013 12:22
Holé a écrit:De toute facon des rounds robin ne servent à rien puisque Artemis n'y participe pas. S'il n'y a pas de casse, LR se retrouvera en demi-final face à un Artemis qui ne ne fera que de la figuration.
par Hel » 08 Juil 2013 15:09
phiver a écrit:Helmina
donc LR n'est pas venu hier soir pour des questions de sécurité.
en 2 phrases simples qu'est ce qui s'est passé ?
je suppose que le but de LR était quand même de courir!
j'ai cassé mon deuxieme neurones hier
July 7, 2013
Statement from Max Sirena, skipper of Luna Rossa Challenge
“I want to clarify the reason for which we are not racing today. As everybody knows we have protested the introduction of new Class Rules without the unanimous agreement of the competing teams. By racing under these rules, enforced by the Regatta Director with Race Notices 185 and 189, we would somehow silently approve them. This is not the case. Therefore we have no choice but to stay ashore until the International Jury has reached a decision on the matter. We have been forced into this position. We did not come to San Francisco to watch races, but to race.”
par phiver » 08 Juil 2013 15:30
par Holé » 09 Juil 2013 14:56
Il doit donner sa réponse quand ce jury?Vsail a écrit:The Italian fashion magnate stated that the chances of pulling the plug completely were at 50%. He isn’t interested in taking part in this America’s Cup and in fact he has been seriously contemplating the team’s withdrawal since a month. He claimed that New Zealanders had also thought about withdrawing but their multi-million sponsorship deals made that option simply impossible.
par Hel » 09 Juil 2013 15:46
What's the issue here ?
After the tragic loss of Artemis crew member Andrew Simpson in a training accident two months ago, America's Cup officials formed a review committee charged with improving safety for the event. Once the review was complete, regatta director Iain Murray sought to implement 37 new safety recommendations. One included changes to the rudder specifications, which would mean altering the design rule just a week from the start of competition in the Louis Vuitton challenger series. Team New Zealand and Luna Rossa claim this will unfairly advantage Cup defenders Oracle.
Team New Zealand's argument
Team New Zealand's protest boils down to one key point - they believe Murray has exceeded his jurisdiction by imposing unilateral changes to the design rule.
One of the fundamental pillars of any America's Cup is the class rule, which is proposed by the defender and accepted by the challenger when they enter. Article 4 in the AC72 class rule states changes can only be made with the unanimous consent of competitors - as has been done more than a dozen times in this Cup.
The Kiwi team will test whether Murray has the authority to alter the governing documents in the name of safety, when the word "safety" does not appear anywhere in the 43 pages of the Protocol.
America's Cup race management's argument
The response from regatta director Murray is likely to centre around Article 16 of the Protocol, which requires teams to comply with "all applicable rules and regulations of any city, state, national or governmental authority having jurisdiction over the event or part thereof".
Having included the 37 recommendations in their application to the US Coastguard for a marine event permit, which was subsequently granted, Murray will argue they effectively become requirements for the teams.
As Murray announced last week, if anything changes in his safety plan, he must immediately notify the Coastguard and make an assessment of the overall safety of the event. His view is that racing will not be safe if his rudder stipulations are not upheld by the jury and the regatta will have to be cancelled.
...Cup organisers attempted to broker an 11th-hour deal that would have seen the Italian team take their place on the start-line yesterday, but negotiations stalled, leaving Team New Zealand to open the Louis Vuitton Cup by themselves.
The Herald understands intense negotiations were held on Sunday night to try to resolve the debate over the new rudder regulations that threatens to derail the entire event, and ensure Luna Rossa would be on the start line. Sources close to the negotiations say the teams got "very close" to reaching an agreement ahead of the jury hearing, but Luna Rossa owner Patrizio Bertelli has been angered by comments made by Artemis boss Paul Cayard in recent days and refused to back down.
par phiver » 10 Juil 2013 01:21
par Hel » 10 Juil 2013 07:05
par phiver » 10 Juil 2013 09:44
par Ruff » 10 Juil 2013 09:47
phiver a écrit:parce que les règles du jeu ont subitement changé UNIQUEMENT?
par Hel » 10 Juil 2013 10:15
par Holé » 10 Juil 2013 11:27
par Hel » 11 Juil 2013 08:44
Holé a écrit:Il doit donner sa réponse quand ce jury?
par Hel » 11 Juil 2013 10:23
Ruff a écrit:phiver a écrit:parce que les règles du jeu ont subitement changé UNIQUEMENT?
Rien que ça me paraît être un argument amplement suffisant. Ils l'ont dit et redit, les changements de règles ne les mettent pas hors course. Ils font une grève de la régate mais pourraient tout à fait s'aligner sur le départ!